Jamie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:51 pm
Paul, do you think it will be able to run CMC?
So far I haven't seen any changes that would prevent CMC from running. It's possible that there could be some minor compatibility tweaks required to get proper functionality and GUI appearance in CMC. My intention is to fully support Win11, though it's too early to make any promises since I haven't even played with it.
I was encouraged by the Linus Tech Tips video on the leaked alpha of Win11, everything pretty much ran without issue.
From what I can tell, Win11 is basically just Win10 with some mandatory security features, plus some new functionality they are withholding from Win10 to entice people to upgrade (i.e. Direct Storage). While I've read a lot of articles dissing on Microsoft for breaking backwards compatibility with this TPM requirement, I actually applaud Microsoft and fully support the path they are taking. TPM 1.2 has been available since 2006, and TPM 2.0 since 2014 (not 2019 as is being often misquoted in tech articles, that is just the date of the latest change ratification), yet support is still missing on a lot of non-business PC's. This became a big issue over the past year during the pandemic and hardware shortages, as many employees began using non-business PC's for business purposes, and IT departments struggled with the lack of TPM support. TPM and other technologies will also enable many great new security features in the future, so these are all features we should all be demanding of our PC's, even if we aren't using these features today.
Microsoft is essentially forcing the hand of PC manufacturers to include these features by default, something MS originally planned to do in 2015. And instead of really polluting the water and pissing off users by making this a new Win10 requirement to keep getting upgrades, they have drawn a clear line in the sand and made this requirement a Win11 requirement only. Don't meet the requirement, simply keep running Win10. Win10 will be fully supported through 2025, and much like Win7 will likely keep working long after. Meet the requirement, then get a free upgrade to Win11 along with some bonus new functionality. I don't think anyone has a right to complain, and if your recently purchased hardware doesn't have TPM support, don't blame MS but rather your PC motherboard vendor. Like I said, MS has been pushing for this for years, and hardware vendors have taken advantage of MS relenting back in 2015 on making TPM standard - it is the hardware vendors that have purposefully let out these security related components, probably in the hopes of forcing new hardware purchases in the future (and the future is now...).
Jamie wrote: ↑Sat Jun 26, 2021 10:51 pm
I have noticed that TPM 2.0 is required? Will this be a killer for you?
TPM functionality is irrelevant to CMC. Having it or not having it will make no difference, CMC just doesn't make use of this capability.
On the other hand, I'm not yet sure which of my PC's will support it, so that could be a factor in my ability to upgrade to Win11 and do development and testing. I'm fairly confident my HTPC, running an AMD Ryzen 3700, will have fTPM at the very least.
My office workstation runs an AMD Threadripper 2950X, and I think I would have to get a TPM module for it, and I'm confused if that requires BIOS support. My google-fu turned up some disheartening reports of users trying to use a TPM module with an undocumented port on a similar Asrock motherboard and I don't think they got it to work. The manual does make reference to fTPM, so perhaps that's an option. That said, I've always intended for this workstation setup to be temporary, with the motherboard/CPU/RAM going into my Unraid server in the future for a nice VM performance upgrade. I've been waiting on the next generation of Threadrippers (5960x????) to build my next workstation, though AMD sure is taking their sweet time. I'm fairly confident this next hardware build will have full TPM support, so even if my current setup doesn't have it that would only be a temporary delay.
I'm more curious if users can get WMC running on Win11. Microsoft has been pretty good at breaking it on Win10, and I wonder if they be more extreme on Win11 to really stop users porting WMC to it.